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Hugh Williams
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 Re:Jake on the Box - BBC4 6th Oct 06 - 2006/10/21 11:17 Thanks,Gordon.I didn't think Jake would have made the O.G.W.T. but it DID look like the setting. Anyway,I can watch it again (and again)and know the score (as it were....). Be seeing you.
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George2
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 Re:Jake on the Box - BBC4 6th Oct 06 - 2006/10/21 13:30 tombo wrote:


"... The only thing I'd have liked to have seen more of in the programme would have been a bit more about his later years. I realise we would be straying into privacy issues, but I can't help being curious about what happened to Jake, what demons he may have been dealing with. It was as if there was a bit of a taboo about speaking about it, and I was left trying to read between the lines (and therefore probably being completely inaccurate). Surely Jake was all about challenging taboos?"



Gordon,

I think that you are the right man who might shed light on this topic. I heard that Morris Dancings were forbidden in ninety eighties also. Is is correct or not?

Best wishes to all who like Jake's songs.
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Clairel
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 Re:Jake on the Box - BBC4 6th Oct 06 - 2006/10/23 21:44 Hi there
As soon as I saw the 'Jake on the Box' programme it was like a light went on in my head and memories came flooding back of when my cousin used to play Jake's 'Last Will & Testament' LP when I was about 12 and I used to LOVE it. I went onto the internet to download some favourites and have been playing them ever since - then found this terrific website - (Congratulations it really is excellent). I was very sad indeed to hear that Jake had died so young and have been listening to 'The Black Swan' with a tear or two. I'm sorry that it took so long for those memories to resurface ( forgive me I was young!!) but it has been wonderful discovering Jake again.

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RICHARD RHYS DAVIES
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 Re:Jake on the Box - BBC4 6th Oct 06 - 2006/10/23 22:43 Hi

This is such an interesting topic - the unmentioned dark side. And how appropriate that "The Black Swan" is the last posting on this topic. I too am deeply affected by this song (who wouldn't be) and for me it is the serious side of Jake that underpins and gives gravitas to his oeuvre. Irrespective of whether it appears he is just doing humourous rhyme or not.

Perhaps the Yorkshire post writings or people who knew the guy in the 80's can shed some light. Were there demons and trouble or did Jake just decide he'd done his bit or felt he had dried up?

I have only just discovered Jake Thackray thanks to the TV programme and am experiencing the same deep response to Jake's music as I did to say, Nick Drake as a teenager. I've had Jake in the Box on constantly since then (a week or two ago and it feels like he's always been there!)

It is the bittersweet edge and the pathos in his songs that really works so well for me. It seems in his TV heyday that he was celebrated for his comic and topical "point song" skills but (whilst not to underestimate these skills) I feel that the genius of this work lies in the power of his spirituality, emotion (anger, even) and physicality. And it is all so moving for that - in the playing, artistry and voice. So, did this emotive path to lead to somewhere now considered taboo? Is anyone from the cognisenti allowed to speak about this? Or are we just inventing a load of post mortum guff?
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terry grant
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 Re:Jake on the Box - BBC4 6th Oct 06 - 2006/10/30 13:07 i quite agree 'claresdad'. those organisers need sorting - i not only know who they are, i know where they live and where they drink. let's arrange a meet some day and get it sorted. they should have shown a lot more of that transvestite nun for a start - i thought he was brill and deserved a lot more exposure. too much jake not enough transvestite nun - that's what i think.
on second thoughts did the organisers have jack s***e to do with the editing of victor lewis smith's prog?
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RICHARD RHYS DAVIES
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 Re:Jake on the Box - BBC4 6th Oct 06 - 2006/10/30 21:03 Pretty damn cryptic there - are you saying Jake was a TV???

I keep checking back on my posting re "The Black Swan" and the dark undertow in Mr. Thackray's work but no comment. I guess his stuff is damn jolly almost all of the time but I stick by what I said about the gravitas underpinnimg this great work. (The Blacksmith and the toffeemaker comes to mind - what a beautiful piece)

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